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MAWERE RESPONDS TO HOVE'S CLAIM THAT HE IS AN "ADVANCED ECONOMIC MERCENARY".
Dear Rev. Hove,
I refer to your note below. You choose to describe me as an advanced economic mercenary. I am not sure what informs your mind and why you would choose to defame my character and to involve me in what appears to be a personal agenda. It is important that you set out your injury and the basis on which the purported legal guidance is being sought.
You wrote a letter to the Prime Minister and in it you decided to use my name in a malicious and defamatory manner. What would motivate a person to divert from a national agenda and choose to focus on an individual is what escapes my mind. If I was an economic mercenary who did not love Zimbabwe, the government of Zimbabwe would simply have had nothing to nationalise in the country. All the assets would have been externalised.
However, it is common cause that the likes of Gwaradzimba and many others are cashing in on the companies that were acquired, created and transformed in Zimbabwe and not in some outer space through my leadership. You obviously do not understand what a mercenary is. The government of Zimbabwe had to use draconian measures to open a window to nationalise my assets all situated in the Republic of Zimbabwe. The employees who derive incomes from the companies so nationalised are Zimbabwean. The customers that are served with the products and services are not only in Zimbabwe but all over the world. Equally, the suppliers and other stakeholders involved in the value chain are the real beneficiaries of an economic enterprise, a point often overlooked by simple and naive minds.
I believe that you have opened a conversation point about what kind of Zimbabwe you want to see. Naturally, you are entitled to exclude from the Zimbabwe you want to see. That is your prerogative. However, what is important is that we disagree without being disagreeable. If you believe that the government of Zimbabwe was entitled to manufacture new laws to deal with my specific circumstances, then it is only fair that you add your voice to those who believe that no change in Zimbabwe is believable change. The restoration of the rule of law and respect for human and property rights is not just a Western issue but is also an issue to people who believe that Zimbabwe’s brighter day will only come if people like you begin to be objective and impartial. A democratic constitutional order compels everyone who subscribes to this social construction not to be the judge, jury and executioner or in the circumstances of SMM for the government to assume the role of a creditor even without any regard to the jurisdictional facts and the proceed to the a judge unto its own cause. For more information that your lawyer should also look at as he advises you, please read the Reconstruction of State Indebted Insolvent Companies Act.
You should read the preamble that says as follows with respect to the application of the law: “This Act shall apply to all state indebted companies, including those formed or incorporated before the date of commencement of this Act and regardless of when they became indebted to the State.”
It is instructive that the word “state” is not even described in the whole legislation. I attach hereto a copy of the Statutory Instrument and the Act for you to see and share with your legal counsel.
If you find the Act consistent with the values that you want to see in Zimbabwe then you are perfectly entitled to pronounce your opinion on it rather than focus on me. This same legislation may be used against you and your successors. The inclusive government is not calling for its removal from the statutes rather the focus is on the removal of sanctions while leaving these laws in place to be used against people you choose to describe as advanced economic mercenaries. What if state actors have now become advanced economic mercenaries? How are you to respond? It will be interesting to get the response of your attorneys not just for my personal benefit but for the benefit of all the people who are on your distribution list.
I am one who is for dialogue and will encourage you to ventilate all your frustrations on my case. I do hope that this will give you the necessary mental and physical therapy that you may be in need of.
Regards,
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Rev Hove replies:
My brother I'm very sure you do not appreciate the depth of my commitment to seeing not only a New Zimbabwe but a full postmortem of all which happened in the last few years, especially.
I'm not afraid of any stone. I will turn all of them..... including any that may shake your very foundation!
I shudder at the information that is reaching me as I delve into all the facets of the Zimbabwean Story!
Please wait patiently as I prepare my response as I promised.
I had it ready but a Zim legal brain asked me to wait a bit.
By the way its not about either you or me!
Far from it!
The time has come to call each item by its real name.
Please kindly give me a few days!
For the love of Zimbabwe!
Mufaro Stig Hove...Rev.
REVOLUTIONARY YOUTH MOVEMENT OF ZIMBABWE, PATRON!
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2009/3/26 stanford chibanda schiband@fas.harvard.edu
Going off topic is fine with some of us once in a while because its all part of the "forum fun" ...
However, it will become very discomforting in no time if we decide to continue turning this forum into an unproductive platform for spiteful and dirty personal attacks and smears which undoubtedly become a disruption to the level headed discussion discourse some of us are looking for and wanted to build...
Naturally, there is a level of banter and 'joshing' and countering / defense that is perfectly acceptable and is an expected part of any discussion forum of differing political and social backgrounds. Yet when threads consist only of name calling and insults - then some of us begin to wonder whether are in the right forum, a forum that is a source of socio-politico solutions and smart ideas and thinking.
So I hope all of us can make a serious effort to pause before writing posts which are only designed to be insulting to, or to wind up or childishly outsmart your fellow forum members. Hopefully contributors will try to pause, think and then send us something that can benefit and attract the participation of the plus 300 members on this distribution list... Those with strong inclinations for personal vendettas should take them off line and resolve them privately with no exceptions - this includes the forum moderators and the rest of us...
My own experience has taught me that
* Personal vicious attacks are not going to help "one bit' any one of us
* Out smarting each other publicly is not a sign of any strength
* Going off-topic on a thread - just to score personal points or to be disruptive definitely deprives members from productive discussion relating to the Zimbabwe ...
Unless I am mistaken this forum is not a tool for any one of us to settle personal scores but to discuss real pertinent issues with fellow sound minds..So to my fellow armchair revolutionaries, lets find our path back to discussions that are not pregnant with any personal attacks. ... to those misinformed or naturally devious cohorts, it's never too late to find time for some 'sitting on hands' and carefully reflect....:-)...
We are all Zimbabweans, lets make an effort to advance our agenda of sharing notes and heated arguments and ideas on the state of Zimbabwe..
Just my 2 cents..
Mutambavhu
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That's where we miss completely!
When I say "Robert Mugabe is a Master-Assassin" nobody complains.
Like I said over and over again, the suffering, simple, unsophisticated, silenced people are my focus.
If God put minerals at Zvishavane, then Zvishavane among other areas lack development while the foreign currency incurred helps a few goons to buy 10 houses each some with upstairs with 5 visitor's lodges each, then by God I swear.........
...... I swear........
we will meet each other.
This is not personal (PLEASE LET ME NEVER REPEAT THIS AGAIN!)
I'm in a bad frame of mind, I admit but to allege that I'm an attention-seeker who has the propensity etc etc ....... BE WARNED...... the forces behind me are too committed for shallow intimidation etc.
I wish not to be further disturbed.
Let me prepare the case against Mutumwa in peace!
Rev Mufaro Stig Hove.
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